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    Circuit Breaker Simulator

    Does any have or use a CB simulator during functional relay testing? Haven't had much luck looking else wear online. If you do, can you provide any details you have?

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    CB Simulator

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    Does any have or use a CB simulator during functional relay testing? Haven't had much luck looking else wear online. If you do, can you provide any details you have?

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    How complicated is the functional testing you are working on? For a single breaker operation, using a latching ice-cube relay may be all you would need to prove your logic. Sit down with the schematics for what you are testing and come up with a game plan. Find a relay with operate coils that will match your control voltage and the required number of NO & NC contacts. You can make this as simple or complicated as you like. If you do a lot of this type testing, make it durable and repeatable. The main thing is have fun and learn from the experience. I have been involved with end-to-end functional testing that required a PLC to simulate all the crap going on during a fault. Pulled a lot of hair out, put learned a lot about the systems!

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    SEL-2411 Is Option

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    Does any have or use a CB simulator during functional relay testing? Haven't had much luck looking else wear online. If you do, can you provide any details you have?

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    We have been using SEL-2411's as breaker simulators. I also have a schematic for a home built one we use at Hands on Relay School if you would be interested in that. Let me know and I can get you the 2411 settings file.

    Thanks,
    Greg

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    CB Simulator by Zensol

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    Does any have or use a CB simulator during functional relay testing? Haven't had much luck looking else wear online. If you do, can you provide any details you have?

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    The companies that rent CB test equipment use CB simulators regularly. They are necessary to re-test the equipment at every rental.

    One such simulator was made by Doble many years ago, but I understand that it is no longer available.

    The Canadian company Zensol makes them now, but they are not cheap.
    https://www.zensol.com/product/circu...lator-sim-cb6/

    You can also simply buy an old breaker that is still functional and use that instead of a simulator. You will be limited to the specific characteristics of that one breaker.

    Hope this helps.

    George

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan003 View Post
    Does any have or use a CB simulator during functional relay testing? Haven't had much luck looking else wear online. If you do, can you provide any details you have?

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    I use them for functional testing, a spare microprocessor relay can be programmed for one or you can use aux relays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan003 View Post
    Does any have or use a CB simulator during functional relay testing? Haven't had much luck looking else wear online. If you do, can you provide any details you have?

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    We are using circuit breaker simulator for our relay training program, not used for test and commissioning yet.
    I developed cbs with plc at last year. Now, i start to rebuild it. I added auto reclose function and increased output voltage 24dc to 110v dc.
    This is an old photo.
    https://eksiup.com/p/p2289837umid

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    Breaker simulator

    Quote Originally Posted by Gsharpes View Post
    We have been using SEL-2411's as breaker simulators. I also have a schematic for a home built one we use at Hands on Relay School if you would be interested in that. Let me know and I can get you the 2411 settings file.

    Thanks,
    Greg
    Hey Greg, if you can do you think you can send me those 2411 settings? I'm currently trying to implement a simulator using a 2440 and anything would help email eduardoj.aicrag@gmail.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gsharpes View Post
    We have been using SEL-2411's as breaker simulators. I also have a schematic for a home built one we use at Hands on Relay School if you would be interested in that. Let me know and I can get you the 2411 settings file.

    Thanks,
    Greg
    I would love to see that 2411 settings file!

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    Spencer

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    Quote Originally Posted by evan003 View Post
    Does any have or use a CB simulator during functional relay testing? Haven't had much luck looking else wear online. If you do, can you provide any details you have?

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    yes, many utilities request use of simulator to minimize breaker operations
    i have used an old 86/lockout relay, or a S&D latching relay, there are a couple to can buy but are expensive, i.e. The Barrington Model CBS (Circuit Breaker Simulator) was designed to be a convenient, lightweight alternative to operating high-voltage circuit breakers while testing the operation of substation protection relays.

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    Breaker Simulator

    Quote Originally Posted by Gsharpes View Post
    We have been using SEL-2411's as breaker simulators. I also have a schematic for a home built one we use at Hands on Relay School if you would be interested in that. Let me know and I can get you the 2411 settings file.

    Thanks,
    Greg

    Hello all, I am a Relay apprentice and am interested in scheme and settings for breaker simulator thanks in advance.

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